Today was rough on my SPY Double Diagonal, I'm less than 1 standard deviation away from my short strike, the odds are not so good. I'm not immediately closing the position, instead I'll close a few contracts and then adjust the remaining. I want to make money, and shutting things down just locks in the loss.
Both Paper Iron Butterflies took a dive to max loss Today. As I explained in their detailed posting, I didn't close the trades in the platform just to see how it behaves, but for all documentation matters they can be considered busted!
Soo, I am now doing a backtesting challenge for the MNX Iron Butterfly, I have to adapt the way I'm adjusting the trade, it is clear to me I over-adjusted the live JUN and JUL positions, and specially clear I over-adjusted the RUT and SPX paper butterflies. So, there you have the commitment is on.
Detailed Postings:
SPY Double Diagonal
MNX Iron Butterfly Backtesting Challenge
RUT Iron Butterfly
SPX Iron Butterfly
Wednesday, July 15, 2009
07/15 Backtest Challenge
Like I mentioned Yesterday, there is learning to be done with managing the Iron Butterflies, with that in mind, I've been postponing backtesting, but I now must make the commitment. So here it goes: I'll backtest at least one month a day, when time allows I'll do it two months or more per day.
I'm using TOS thinkback for backtesting, while the platform is good, it is soo time consuming!! Let me say that again: TIME CONSUUUMING.. I have to manually add up the delta and theta for every contract/spread in the trade in order to see where I am on a day-to-day basis. On the other hand, I get the experience to see how each individual spread behaves. I'm attaching the backtesting results and will keep them on the blog as part of my commitment.
The results:
JUN/09: +10% ROI
MAY/09: +20% ROI
Here is the JUN/09 Day-by-day:
I'm using TOS thinkback for backtesting, while the platform is good, it is soo time consuming!! Let me say that again: TIME CONSUUUMING.. I have to manually add up the delta and theta for every contract/spread in the trade in order to see where I am on a day-to-day basis. On the other hand, I get the experience to see how each individual spread behaves. I'm attaching the backtesting results and will keep them on the blog as part of my commitment.
The results:
JUN/09: +10% ROI
MAY/09: +20% ROI
Here is the JUN/09 Day-by-day:
07/15 SPY Double Diagonal
Where is the love?? :) Taking such a large move in the first few days is never pleasant, I had the same experience last month with my 50-Day condor, except the condor bit the dust, the double-diagonal is still in play. I'm less than a standard deviation from the up-side adjustment, and I'll adjust if we get there.
There is one thing here: The Recommendation is to close the position when it hits your short strike within 7 days. For me, I preffer to adjust and stay on the trade, see if the underlying backs off. One way or another, I'm keepign my stop on a 1:1 ration with my expected profits. Not letting my losses run
Position's History:
07/14 SPY Double Diagonal
07/13 SPY Double Diagonal *New*
There is one thing here: The Recommendation is to close the position when it hits your short strike within 7 days. For me, I preffer to adjust and stay on the trade, see if the underlying backs off. One way or another, I'm keepign my stop on a 1:1 ration with my expected profits. Not letting my losses run
Position's History:
07/14 SPY Double Diagonal
07/13 SPY Double Diagonal *New*
07/15 RUT Iron Butterfly *Stopped*
RUT took a dive just like SPX with this strong market move. I had the option to exit with 20% loss around 10 AM EST Today, like I did for SPX, I left the trade open just to see what it would look like at the end of the day, I want to compare Yesterday's profile with Today's results..
For all considerations, the trade is closed at max loss + some.
Position's history day-by-day:
07/14 RUT Iron Butterfly
07/13 RUT Iron Butterfly
07/09 Daily Update
07/08 Daily Update
07/07 RUT Iron Butterfly
07/03 RUT Iron Butterfly
07/02 RUT Iron Butterfly
07/01 RUT Iron Butterfly
06/30 RUT Iron Butterfly
06/29 RUT Iron Butterfly
06/25 RUT Iron Butterfly
06/24 RUT Iron Butterfly
06/23 RUT Iron Butterfly
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For all considerations, the trade is closed at max loss + some.
Position's history day-by-day:
07/14 RUT Iron Butterfly
07/13 RUT Iron Butterfly
07/09 Daily Update
07/08 Daily Update
07/07 RUT Iron Butterfly
07/03 RUT Iron Butterfly
07/02 RUT Iron Butterfly
07/01 RUT Iron Butterfly
06/30 RUT Iron Butterfly
06/29 RUT Iron Butterfly
06/25 RUT Iron Butterfly
06/24 RUT Iron Butterfly
06/23 RUT Iron Butterfly
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07/15 SPX Iron Butterfly *Stopped*
Not happy to report the trade bit the dust Today. No way to survive such a strong move in the last week with that much Gamma. That's why the folks at Sheridan Mentoring are strong about beign SUPER careful during the expiration week.
Well, I had the option to exit around 10 AM EST at max loss. It would be my clue to shut down the trade. I left the position open just to see what it will happen to it, but as far as this experience is concerned, the trade is over at max loss + some (commissions and slippage).
Well, I had the option to exit around 10 AM EST at max loss. It would be my clue to shut down the trade. I left the position open just to see what it will happen to it, but as far as this experience is concerned, the trade is over at max loss + some (commissions and slippage).
Position's history day-by-day:
07/14 SPX Iron Butterfly
07/13 SPX Iron Butterfly
07/09 Daily Update
07/08 Daily Update
07/07 SPX Iron Butterfly
07/02 SPX Iron Butterfly
07/01 SPX Iron Butterfly
06/30 SPX Iron Butterfly
06/29 SPX Iron Butterfly
06/25 SPX Iron Butterfly
06/24 SPX Iron Butterfly
06/23 SPX Iron Butterfly
06/22 SPX Iron Butterfly
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