Monday, June 22, 2009

06/22 SPX Iron Butterfly

Added this position on my paper account. I know it is past the optimum time to enter the Iron Butterflies, I want to test my hand in managing it on an Index with a larger size position.

4 comments:

Unknown said...

Hi Gustavo,

Your trades are very interesting. All of your graphs show your contingent orders to cut your deltas in half if the underlying moves to certain prices, but I don't understand how you're determining where the underlying has to move before you cut the deltas in half. Can you explain how that's determined?

Gustavo's Trades said...

Hi there,

It really depends upon what strategy I'm trading. For Iron Butterflies, the guideline I'm following is to keep the theta:delta ratio under control.

Say for example the MNX iron butterfly, it is an ETF, so the theta won't be huge. My goal is to keep a 1:1 ratio. Whenever the ETF starts to move into a level where the delta becomes twice the theta, I look into cutting it. If we get closer to the outskirts of the "tent" (expiration break even), I try cutting a bit more than 1/2, to stay as flat as possible as we exit the "tent".

For an Index, a 10:1 ratio is more desirable. I noticed that Indexes have smaller gamma, so I'm thinking they are probably easier to keep under control. We'll see with the RUT and SPX paper trades.

I also look at the graph at the end of the day, using TOS I can see where 1 st. deviation is for the next morning, here I make sure that my delta won't be too large to take too much of my profits away if we open the day with a big gap. If I'm not ok with the delta, I cut it some more, to me this is specially IMPORTANT on weekends.

I hope this helps. If not, let me know and we'll keep the dialog.
Gustavo

Gustavo's Trades said...

Forgot to mention, for Iron Condors and Double Diagonals, the adjustment points are pre-determined at the beginning of the positions.

The Iron Butterflies are new to me, I believe they need an active approach, that's why I stay at them. So far so good.

Gustavo

Unknown said...

Thanks, that actually makes a lot of sense. Hopefully this will make following your charts a lot easier for me :)